为何世界不喜欢今天的中国人：观念问题or素养问题？

bmwman · 发表于 2011-12-7 20:42:46

Thanks a lot for honest reply, I just want to inject some atomsopher in order to make chinese people abroad feel more confident, more adaptive. i dont talk about all, i never sais all, its your self imagination that i meant all, i always mean majorities of white are not nice to chinese as majorities of chinese to white.it is proven already by statistics. it is the fact, so the fact is unfair.either chinese stop been so nice to white or white improv them self to be nicer to chinese.i know its a big job for white to do.specially white dont like change themself a lot.but they still should do it, if white dont start to change themself, this topic will pass to next next generations...

jagoda · 发表于 2011-12-7 23:06:59

bmwman 发表于 2011-12-7 13:42
Thanks a lot for honest reply, I just want to inject some atomsopher in order to make chinese people ...

OK...i UNDERSTAND...but what about this way...
why ''white''should change?
Maybe ''Chinese'' people should?
or maybe the work need to be done by both sides?

So majorites white people do not like chinese! And majority of chinese people do not like whites!
heh...
Well maybe from other point of view, do you like metal music? well I do, and lets say you don't...in your way, in your opinion: I should change my habbit otherwise you wont like me, or I should force you to like my kind of music? other way we wont be friends?

You see, the problem is it always works both way!
If someone feels that somebody do not like him/her - he wont be nice for him in any special way, cos why should he, if this person already have opinion and do not like him.
The other way is the same - if someone do not know person and already judged him that he wont like him - why he should bother to known him more?!...there is never problem only on one side!

But what about that if whites do not like chinese....why chinese people should care about it? if you do not likes withes do not care if we like you?
why chinese should care what ''whites'' think about them? why do you care about that? if you do not like us, other way why should they like you?

if chinese people want ''whites'' to like them more...they should open them selves!
To get know ''white' culture/habbits etc then white will be able to known your culture your habbits...and of course we do not have to agree with our cultures and habbits...but at least we tried and we know. for sure there must be some compromise, both of site need to sacrafice sth...but as you sad its a long progress - But it must be done by both parts not just ''whites''!

Oh one more regarding chiense people abroad! Good that you want them be more confident, for sure they cannot afford that in their own land! remember that confidence doesn't mean be negative and pessimistic about all you find abroad,
but I think this is different subject. what they teach us in our own countries :)

and the last one: you sad white do not like change themselfs? well we changing every day...we are open for other cultures, religions, musics, habbits etc....what you can say about chinese...?? do you change?
again: why whites should change and you stay the same? :) this way it will never work out!

bmwman · 发表于 2011-12-8 01:15:29

chinese are nice enough,and they absolutly open for other nations, dont arguee with me about it. its the fact, unless you know nothing about chinese people. white people to chinese are definetlly lack of welcoming and willing of knowing chinese culture.therefore, nothing much for chinese to change.but a lot for white to change, whites are not aware the fact.they tought they are open for other culture,give you an example. how many foreign direct investmment in china,how much western culture we accepted,u nenver been to china,so just shut up how easy to get chinese visa for low calss white,how dificult for upper middle class chinese people to get polish visa. you may never thought about brouder views.i am dealing with quite a lot of polish authorities, their level of opening to other culture in internation wise is down the bottom

jagoda · 发表于 2011-12-8 02:18:24

bmwman 发表于 2011-12-7 18:15
chinese are nice enough,and they absolutly open for other nations, dont arguee with me about it. its ...

HAHA reading your post really outing smile on my face....
well, will not aruge! I will just say that you are very wrong! I can say the same way I know a lot of Chinese people dealing with polish! and they seems to do not have any problems. You know what? Problems are then when someone think that he is perfect and there is nothing to chagne!

One more if your country, your people are such good why a lot of the higher class chinese people looking to go aborad? And they easily doing it!
I dont know why you saying getting visa is diffricult for buisness mans its easy...other visas are other subjet!
And of course you cant compare imigration of 40mln Polish to 1,2bilion chinese! there must be some rules! simply math here!

新来的 · 发表于 2011-12-8 02:50:03

楼上的，啥时候中国人口达到20亿了？

开了 · 发表于 2011-12-8 02:53:47

新来的发表于 2011-12-7 18:50
楼上的，啥时候中国人口达到20亿了？

haha

bmwman · 发表于 2011-12-8 04:17:08

plc76com笑而无语，上流社会的人签证easy不是因为西方社会盯上了咱们中国有钱人的口袋。对于普通中国老百姓来要来波兰谈何容易。你去看看，北京，上海的签证难度对于普通百姓。如果对于普通百姓（无移民倾向的）签证顺畅的话，我马上从这里消失。但是这个可能发生吗，呵呵

jagoda · 发表于 2011-12-9 02:27:54

bmwman 发表于 2011-12-7 21:17
笑而无语，上流社会的人签证easy不是因为西方社会盯上了咱们中国有钱人的口袋。对于普通中国老百姓 ...

As far as I know not such long time ago some country didnt want it's own people to leave! also i read that travel from villages to cities wasnt easy. So as you see there are rules everywhere even inside one country!

jagoda · 发表于 2011-12-9 02:29:05

开了发表于 2011-12-7 19:53
haha

my mistake, I was hungry! I ate 1 :)
And yes I know that this is sensitive subject so even deeper apologies! :)

gaoduanwen · 发表于 2011-12-12 23:01:53

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